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  • in reply to: New Creation Nuggets 2024/2025 Discussion Board #32995

    The Fall of Man, as described in the Bible, had far-reaching consequences that affected humanity and the world. Some of the effects of the Fall include:

    1. Spiritual Death: The Fall resulted in spiritual death, separating humanity from God and causing a rupture in the relationship between God and humanity (Genesis 2:17, 3:8) (Romans 5:12)

    Causes of Spiritual Death

    1. Disobedience: Disobedience to God’s commands and laws can lead to spiritual death. When humans refuse to obey God, they are essentially choosing to separate themselves from Him

    . Rejection of God: Rejection of God and His love can also lead to spiritual death. When humans reject God, they are choosing to live without Him, and this can result in spiritual death .

    Effects of Spiritual Death:

    • Separation from God: Spiritual death results in separation from God, making it impossible to experience a meaningful relationship with Him.

    • Loss of Spiritual Life: Spiritual death means that humans are no longer spiritually alive, but are instead dead in their trespasses and sins

    2. *Sin and Guilt: The Fall introduced sin and guilt into the world, causing humanity to become aware of their nakedness and shame (Genesis 3:7-10) (Romans 3:23)

    Sin

    – Sin is any thought, word, or action that falls short of God’s perfect standard of holiness and righteousness
    – Sin is a rebellion against God’s laws and commands, and it separates us from Him

    Guilt

    – Guilt is the feeling of remorse and regret that comes from committing sin
    – Guilt is a natural consequence of sin, and it can lead to feelings of shame, anxiety, and fear
    – Guilt can be a motivator for repentance and seeking forgiveness, but it can also lead to self-condemnation and despair if not dealt with properly

    3. *Suffering and Pain: The Fall brought suffering and pain into the world, affecting not only humanity but also the natural world (Genesis 3:16-19, (Romans 8:22)

    – Suffering and pain are a result of the Fall of humanity and the entrance of sin into the world .
    – However, the Bible also teaches that suffering and pain can be used by God to refine and purify us, to test our faith, and to bring us closer to Him
    – Jesus Christ, the Son of God, suffered and died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins and to provide salvation for humanity

    _Types of Suffering and Pain:_

    – Physical suffering: caused by illness, injury, or disability
    – Emotional suffering: caused by mental health issues, relationships, or traumatic events
    – Spiritual suffering: caused by spiritual attacks, doubts, or feelings of separation.

    in reply to: Theology Discussion Board #32992

    Here are some examples in the Bible where God appears to change His mind or relent from a previous decision:

    1. The Story of Jonah and Nineveh(Jonah 3:1-10): God initially instructed Jonah to preach judgment to the city of Nineveh, warning of its destruction in 40 days (Jonah 3:4). However, after the people of Nineveh repented, God relented and spared the city (Jonah 3:10).

    2. The Story of Hezekiah’s Illness(2 Kings 20:1-11, Isaiah 38:1-22): God told Hezekiah through the prophet Isaiah that he would die from his illness (2 Kings 20:1, Isaiah 38:1). However, after Hezekiah prayed and wept, God added 15 years to his life (2 Kings 20:6, Isaiah 38:5).

    3. The Story of the Israelites in the Wilderness (Exodus 32:1-14, 33:1-6): God was angry with the Israelites for worshiping the golden calf and threatened to destroy them (Exodus 32:10). However, after Moses interceded on their behalf, God relented and spared them (Exodus 32:14).

    4. The Story of Abraham’s Intercession for Sodom(Genesis 18:16-33): God told Abraham that He would destroy Sodom and Gomorrah due to their wickedness (Genesis 18:20-21). However, after Abraham interceded on behalf of the cities, God agreed to spare them if He found at least 10 righteous people (Genesis 18:26-33).

    5. The Story of David’s Census(2 Samuel 24:1-17, 1 Chronicles 21:1-17): God was angry with David for taking a census of the Israelites and threatened to punish them (2 Samuel 24:1-2). However, after David repented and offered sacrifices, God relented and spared the people (2 Samuel 24:16-17

    6. Amos 7:3: “The Lord changed His mind about this. ‘It shall not be,’ said the Lord.”

    (In this passage, God relents from sending a plague upon Israel after Amos intercedes on their behalf.)

    7. Amos 7:6: “The Lord changed His mind about this. ‘This too shall not be,’ said the Lord God.”

    (In this passage, God relents from sending fire upon Israel after Amos intercedes on their behalf.)

    8. Genesis 6:6-7: “The Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. The Lord said, ‘I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them.'”
    9.1 Samuel 15:35 Samuel did not see Saul again until the day of his death; for Samuel grieved over saul because the lord has changed his mind him as king over Israel .
    ( In this passage, the lord God changes his mind about Saul being king over Israel and decided to reject him)

    In each of these cases, God’s “change of mind” is not a contradiction of His original plan, but rather a demonstration of His mercy, compassion, and desire to bless and forgive His people. Here are some examples of places in the Bible where God appears to change His mind:

    in reply to: Christology 2024/25 Discussion Board 1 #32513

    His deity as the son of God. Jesus is God putting on flesh, the name he bears also prove to us that he is divine and deity, (combination of divine and human nature).The bible called him Emmanuel which interpreted as, God is with us, so this child of a virgin (Jesus) is called God is with us, he happen to be born of a virgin meaning is not a man that produced him, he didn’t came from sperm he came from the power of the highest ( he is the seed of God not the seed of man) he is an offspring of God .(john 8:24-30) john 8 from 20 down talks about Jesus conversation with the Pharisees, while he was teaching in the temple a group of Pharisees approached him, he then spoke to them and emphasize on the importance of believing in his divine identity, but they believe him not and even wanted to stone him.(john 3:16-17) the point from this scripture.
    o Gods love
    o The gift of Jesus
    o salvation
    o God’s purpose
    In eternity he is co-equal and co-everlasting with the Father, the same status of deity that the father has is the same as the son has .( Jesus is God manifesting in the flesh)he is as divine and deity like the Father (john 1:10)(John 1:14) key points from this scripture.
    o incarnation
    o dwelt among us
    o glory revealed
    o only begotten
    o full of grace and truth
    Jesus also did things that only God does and they also worship him, he accepted because only God can be worshiped.
    The nature of Christ Is the existent of two nature.
    The nature of God and the nature of man( in the flesh he was God and in the flesh he was man).
    Jesus had the authority of God on earth but he summited his authority to the father, although he had all the authority of God but he didn’t function accept the father gave clearance so that he could qualify to operate as a man, he was fully God but did not operate like God not because he lost his God hood but he surrendered his right to use his God power, so anytime he function like God the father gave permission until his assignment of salvation was over he couldn’t function as God. ( He returned to his full state as God when he resurrected)

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