Reply To: Grace And Faith 2024/2025 Discussion Board 1

[VictorKachi]

Your insights are engaging. I would love to contribute to your post.
First, we need to understand what kind of “victory” faith produces and what “promise” is being referred to in Hebrew 11:39. The “promise” mentioned in Hebrews 11:39 refers to the ultimate fulfilment of God’s redemptive plan in Christ.

The reason they did not receive or experience the promise was not because of any defect in the promise itself. Instead, I believe that the promise, while offered under the dispensation of grace, was not attainable for the saints who lived during the dispensation of the Law.

If we had the chance to ask Father Abraham whether all he was promised was fulfilled. What do you think will be his response?
Jesus alluded in John 8:56 – “…He saw it and was glad.” This implies that Abraham had a spiritual insight or revelation about the future work of Christ.
What about the three Hebrew boys in the burning fiery furnace? Dan 3:23-25
They all experienced victory in their lifetime. Faith delivers results both in the present and in the ultimate fulfillment of God’s redemptive plan through Jesus Christ—the full revelation of the New Covenant and salvation.

On a surface level, Heb 11:36 can be rendered as a contradiction to the truth that faith always receives the victory.
But with a deeper understanding, we can say boldly that the saints of the Old covenant did not experience the promise directly, but they obtained the victory linked to it because they had faith in the coming Messiah, even though they had not seen him.